Socrates Holiness and Justice

Is there a difference between holiness and Justice? Evaluate with reference to the Plato dialogue on Typhoon. Holiness can be defined as a condition of purity or freedom from sin. To be holy is to be dedicated or consecrated to God or a religious purpose. The term Justice is a concept of moral rightness based on ethics, rationality, law, religion, equity and fairness. Through these definitions it can tell us that both holiness and righteousness have different meanings. Although religiousness may be a part of fairness, they have any differences that can set each of them apart.

This can be revealed through the Plato dialogue where Socrates and Typhoon discusses the concept of what Justice and holiness is and if they are a part of one another. The dialogue also shows Socrates who repeatedly asks Typhoon to give a definition of piety and also links both piety and fairness together. Through the themes of atheism and religion, fear and reverence and pleasing different individuals gives us a clearer understanding that there is a difference between holiness and Justice. The Plato dialogue on Typhoon, the difference of piety and fairness can be splayed through the theme of atheism and religion.

Socrates and Typhoon are arguing on whether all holiness is Just or all Justice is holy. He says: “Wherever there is holiness there is Justice too, if where Justice is, the holy is not always to be found, thus holiness would be a part of Justice”. Socrates states this because piety does not always have to accompany righteousness. Humans, who are Atheists, do not believe in a religion, but can be fair and ethical, without being holy, therefore fairness is not always a part of piety. Atheism refers to the disbelief of the existence of god.

The definition implies that atheists do not follow the way of god but they can still abide to the law and what is right and fair. Through the dialogue it gives a message that sanctity is only one part of Justice and that there is a difference between sanctity and justice. Atheists do not believe in any sort of religious belief, therefore they cannot be holy or sacred. This though does not mean that they cannot be fair and rational. The use of atheism displays that Justice can be completely separate from godliness. Through this, it demonstrates the difference between holiness and Justice.

The difference between godliness and fairness can be shown through fear and reverence. In the dialogue, Socrates makes a comparison to fear and reverence when he urges Typhoon to continue to the enquiry on holiness and Justice about if one is just a part of the other. He suggests that perhaps everything that is holy is Just. To illustrate his point he uses a line of poetry: “for where fear is there too is reverence”. Socrates does not agree with this line and argues that we fear disease and poverty but we have no reverence at all for that fear. One can also have deep respect and we in someone or something without being fearful of it.

It links to sanctity as it dialogue Socrates states, “Where reverence is, there too is fear, not however that where fear is there always you have reverence. Fear is wider in extent than reverence. ” He goes on to say that reverence is a part of fear. This means that fear can be very broad whereas reverence is mostly centered on god. The dialogue indicates that Justice is more general whereas piety is primarily the devotion and dedication to god. Socrates and Typhoon then go onto the conclusion that is a part f righteousness and they must find what part of Justice it may be.

Through the comparison to fear and reverence, it can give us a difference of holiness and Justice. Another difference of sacredness and Justice is that they are pleasing different individuals. The theme of humans act the same way but they are pleasing different individuals is demonstrated in the Plato dialogue of Typhoon to show the difference of sacredness and impartiality. In a section of the dialogue Socrates and Typhoon are trying to find what division holiness come under Justice so they will have a clearer understanding of the term piety.

Typhoon suggests that the part of Justice that is concerned with looking after the gods is holiness whereas the part of Justice that is concerned with looking after men is not. The segment of the dialogue means that to be holy is to do good things to please the gods, but by being a Just person, one must please the society of humans. Socrates asked Typhoon to define holy and unholy. Typhoon states the holy is what he was doing, persecuting his father who had committed murder or sacrilegious whether it be one family or friend, not to restructure would be unholy.

He also mentions that it is also the law, which is what justice is. Although devoutness and rightness may have the same values, and morals on right and wrong, they are not pleasing the same beings. Also in the dialogue, Typhoon states: “l think that the part of Justice which is religious and is holy is the part that has to do with the service of gods; the remainder of the part of Justice has to do with the service of mankind. ” Socrates questions the word “service” and asks if it has to do with the care of the gods to benefit them and make them better.

Socrates then comes to a conclusion that humans cannot make gods better, because they are not dependent of humans for their being but by being holy it pleases the gods. This is saying that the whole meaning of piety is pleasing and doing well for the gods. Justice though, is the way that people please and do good for mankind. Through the use of pleasing different individuals, it shows the difference between holiness and justice, and that they are very distinct from one another. Even though holiness may be a part of Justice, they have many distinctions from each other.

Piety is essentially referring to god and how humans can be good and ethical people in order to be like god. Justice may also include this, but it is generally the way that society works to keep it preserved and in order. This has been revealed through the use of atheism and religion, fear and reverence, and that humans are acting the same way but pleasing different individuals. Through the use of the Plato dialogue of Typhoon it shows us the term and insight of piety and fairness and how they can be linked together and also separated. From this, we can obtain a clearer

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